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Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon (Lee Morgan) 2. Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon (Lee Morgan) 3. Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon (Jye nigma) 4. Obese Instructor (BJ Pritchett) 5. Re: BAD KIDS OR BAD TEACHERS? (zisheged@aol.com) 6. Re: What do you want to improve upon (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:57:29 -0500 From: "Lee Morgan" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm probably right up there with the cookie monster too. Most of my life I haven't had to worry about what I ate because I train so much. But as I've gotten older that's no longer the case. Eating right was a discipline that got the best of me for a long time. I would do well for 4 or 5 weeks, then I would fall off the wagon for about a month. Off and on, back and fourth. About 3 years ago I started giving myself one day a week where I ate anything and everything I wanted---as long as I had done well for the rest of the week. I've found that for me, this workes very well. Lee Morgan --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:29:25 -0500 From: "Lee Morgan" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray wrote: "Probably not. Kukki-TKD has been primarily a sport in Korea for the last 40 years. And now that it is in the Olympics it is the primary job of the WTF to keep it there. You can be pure self-defense oriented and still be part of Kukki-TKD, but you'll never have the full attention of the WTF since it is a sports organization." Yes, I'm aware that the WTF is primarily focused on the sport of TKD and that they have been all along. I believe that if there is enough noise made that they will also begin to pay attention to self-defense as well. This is one of the major reasons that most people sign up for TKD. Look at the WTF's own website under "what is TKD". It speaks more of being able to stop a fight with your hands and feet and being in control of a fight situation more than it speaks of the sport TKD. AND, TKD is marketed to the general public as a martial art. I may be a flea shouting at the dog, but I wouldn't feel good about myself if I didn't speak my mind about this. Happy New Year!! Lee Morgan --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:35:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What I realised is that all the years of over-eating, tearing up sweets like there was no tomorrow, did hurt the body, it was all just internal, and at some point when the body can't compensate for all the abuse the warning signs begin to manifest themselves outwardly.   With that being understood, I've been focusing on cleansing, and putting what's supposed to be in my body...in my body...lol. The difference for me is like night and day.   Jye --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Lee Morgan wrote: From: Lee Morgan Subject: Re: RE: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 7:57 PM I'm probably right up there with the cookie monster too. Most of my life I haven't had to worry about what I ate because I train so much. But as I've gotten older that's no longer the case. Eating right was a discipline that got the best of me for a long time. I would do well for 4 or 5 weeks, then I would fall off the wagon for about a month. Off and on, back and fourth. About 3 years ago I started giving myself one day a week where I ate anything and everything I wanted---as long as I had done well for the rest of the week. I've found that for me, this workes very well. Lee Morgan _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "BJ Pritchett" To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:27:23 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Obese Instructor Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings All, I wish to preface this msg, with the known fact that I am the obese instructor. In my past year I have put weight on and the reason really doesn't matter. I am what I am. Obese. I am working to correct the problem, but again that doesn't change where I am today. Having admitted my faults, the question is "am I suppose to quit because I put on weight because I don't meet your definition of what an instructor should look like?" I don't feel I should. Fat or not, I love to teach, I still have a lot to offer my students (youth and adult). I can still teach them the proper technique on a side kick or reverse side kick. I can still point out bad foot position on a front snap kick, or balance issues in stances. I can still hang all the way thru class and do everything I expect my students to do. I can still demonstrate these things pretty darn good, and I can still be a positive influence on people who are willing to listen. I owe myself the responsibility of trying to become better and losing weight, (which I am working on correcting) but I don't believe I should quit because I became overweight and may not meet some artificial standard out in the world. Then start back up again after I loose the weight. There is a huge market of schools. If you don't train with me because you don't like how I look, well then you may miss out on something I could teach you, and I may miss out on learning from you. I have life experience and a willingness to share and teach. I wish to make my students better than me and I wish to strive to be better than them. It's an oxymoron, but it keeps all of us on our toes and all of us training. An elderly man in a wheelchair is the one who gave me the advise I needed to fix my jump spin back kick. If I would not have listened to him because he was in a chair, I would have never been able to break with that kick for my last testing (which I passed) I guess what I'm saying is I get everyone has their opinions. I get everyone has their standards, but I don't think a person should quit what they are good at because they made a mistake and put a little weight on. Fix what you can, if you can still be of benefit, keep teaching and try to improve. Just my thoughts on the whole weighty issue (coming from the obese side of things) Yours in the Arts, BJ Pritchett --__--__-- Message: 5 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:43:26 -0500 From: zisheged@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: BAD KIDS OR BAD TEACHERS? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This you could be absolutely sure of...there are BOTH bad teachers and bad students!!!!!? I've seen way too many of both. My resolution of the year is to motivate a fitness explosion among kids. I was a school teacher for 38 years and motivated quite a few to loose weight and get into shape.? I provide demonstrations publicly to recruit great kids and to motivate others to get into terrific shape. It's catching on very slowly but I'm committed to that. Zeishe --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] What do you want to improve upon Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:09:01 -0800 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'm on your side in the sense that I don't like where the WTF has taken TKD, but too many others do like it. And as the IOC's world governing body for the sport of TKD, the WTF has enough on their plate I suspect. e.g., I'm a shooter. I have done well in bulls-eye target shooting competitions, but I'm far more interested in the self-defense & tactical aspects of shooting. So am I better off going to the IOC's world governing body for target shooting to convince them to pay more attention to the self-defense aspects of shooting -or- should I look elsewhere if that is all I'm interested in? Insert boxing, wrestling, fencing, judo, biathlon or any other combat sport in the above and I think you end up with the same result. Ray On Jan 3, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > I believe that if there is enough noise > made that they will also begin to pay attention to self-defense as > well. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest