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Today's Topics: 1. hapkido sparring clip (Jye nigma) 2. hapkido knockout (Jye nigma) 3. First in US. (Jye nigma) 4. Re: First in US. (Ray) 5. RE: First in US. (michael tomlinson) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] hapkido sparring clip Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5q-OeU9Vh0 --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:44:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] hapkido knockout Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hapkido vs Karate knock out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mgq0yxkjTg&feature=related     --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] First in US. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi everyone, >From time to time on another group I see a guy write about some martial art (authoritively) and he always makes various claims (teaching Bruce Lee, writing for Black Belt magazinem, etc) This time this individual writes that he was the "...first Caucasin in the US to study Hapkido and write the first assessment of the art in 'Black Belt'". Now my question is who was the first caucasin to learn hapkido in the U.S.? is there a way to actually know that? I asked him what his name was and what the name of the article he supposedly wrote for Black Belt was. Chances are he's a liar but I'd like to shut his mouth finally. any help would be greatly appreciate it.   Jye --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] First in US. Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:56:34 -0800 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Is this person perhaps Bill Knittle aka William Upton-Knittle aka An Tsu aka An Tzu aka "b", from UCLA? And supposedly when he wrote for Black Belt in the 60s he used a different name that he did not reveal??? If so I don't believe that he ever made that claim when he hung around here up until about ten years ago. I seem to recall him being "ordained as a Buddhist monk in all traditions" and Aikido, but not Hapkido. Ray On Feb 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Jye wrote: > From time to time on another group I see a guy write about some > martial art > (authoritively) and he always makes various claims (teaching Bruce > Lee, > writing for Black Belt magazinem, etc) This time this individual > writes that > he was the "...first Caucasin in the US to study Hapkido and write > the first > assessment of the art in 'Black Belt'". Now my question is who was > the first > caucasin to learn hapkido in the U.S.? is there a way to actually > know that? I > asked him what his name was and what the name of the article he > supposedly > wrote for Black Belt was. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: michael tomlinson To: Dojang Digest Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] First in US. Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:11:03 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Don't know about the U.S. but GM J.R. West is the first American to be promoted to black belt in Hapkido.. Michael Tomlinson > From: thedojang@sbcglobal.net> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] First in US.> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:56:34 -0800> > Is this person perhaps Bill Knittle aka William Upton-Knittle aka An > Tsu aka An Tzu aka "b", from UCLA? And supposedly when he wrote for > Black Belt in the 60s he used a different name that he did not reveal???> > If so I don't believe that he ever made that claim when he hung around > here up until about ten years ago. I seem to recall him being > "ordained as a Buddhist monk in all traditions" and Aikido, but not > Hapkido.> > Ray> > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Jye wrote:> > > From time to time on another group I see a guy write about some > > martial art> > (authoritively) and he always makes various claims (teaching Bruce > > Lee,> > writing for Black Belt magazinem, etc) This time this individual > > writes that> > he was the "...first Caucasin in the US to study Hapkido and write > > the first> > assessment of the art in 'Black Belt'". Now my question is who was > > the first> > caucasin to learn hapkido in the U.S.? is there a way to actually > > know that? I> > asked him what his name was and what the name of the article he > > supposedly> > wrote for Black Belt was.> _______________________________________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,500 members> The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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