Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 02:48:23 +0200 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 16 #123 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Re: Current Kukkiwon dan prices (Dana Vaillancourt) 3. Re: Current Kukkiwon dan prices (Jye nigma) 4. RE: Current Kukkiwon dan prices (Dennis Overall) 5. Chris Canning award nominations open (Ray) 6. RE: Current Kukkiwon dan prices (Jye nigma) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:16:23 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] New Vision Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Taekwondo Body Announces New Vision Korea Times 05-06-2009 As part of its efforts to solidify taekwondo's status as an Olympic event, and take it beyond its role as a sport, the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) announced several new programs on Tuesday. WTF President Choue Chung-won announced the WTF's new vision action programs in his speech during a ceremony to mark the opening of a newly expanded WTF Lausanne office at the Maison du Sport International (MSI) in Lausanne on Tuesday. ``Our new vision to reorganize the WTF into a dual structure is to bring taekwondo closer to the center of the Olympic Movement and to the international sports community,'' Choue said during the ceremony. He said, ``Our Seoul office will concentrate on taekwondo development, technical issues and finance. Our Lausanne office will function to coordinate with the IOC, the WADA, international sports federations, and overall international sports organizations.'' International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Jacques Rogge praised the WTF's "exemplary collaboration with the IOC" and said that the WTF has "made a huge progress" since the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. To attain its new vision, the WTF will strengthen the function and role of its office in Lausanne, Switzerland, which will ultimately serve as a global center of the WTF for international relations and Olympic coordination. The WTF officially opened its Lausanne liaison office in 2006 and recently decided to move to the Lausanne at the MSI. The WTF will also expand its solidarity programs for the disabled and less-privileged people and its Taekwondo Peace Corps programs, as well as focus on youth education. The WTF believes this will help taekwondo contribute to the promotion of world peace. The ceremony drew more than 70 high-ranking sports figures. ``I am grateful of the initiatives of the WTF. I would like to thank the WTF for its exemplary collaboration with the IOC,'' said Rogge. ``If I make a comparison with the 2000 Sydney Olympics, now the WTF has made a huge change. The sport of taekwondo has become more dynamic.'' --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Dana Vaillancourt To: Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 01:20:46 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Current Kukkiwon dan prices Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks. > From: "ISAHDQ" > To: > Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:12:43 -0400 > Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Current Kukkiwon dan prices > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Yes, they are. > > Respectfully, > George Petrotta > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net wow....that's a pretty penny.   Jye --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Ray wrote: From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 1:04 PM 6th Dan $350 7th Dan $450 8th Dan $550 9th Dan $700 I believe... On May 6, 2009, at 4:04 AM, Jye nigma wrote: > what about 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th? just out of curiousity. > > Jye _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,500 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Dennis Overall To: "the_dojang@martialartsresource.net" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:27:00 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You think so? What does a tank of gas cost in Korea? How much can one earn in return at the master level? At what cost is a college degree? How much does it cost for two to dine out ? When you look at the relevance of these things in comparison to the cost of a master level black belt which will last you a life time, then these cost for a belt are very reasonable. Master O > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:15:57 -0700 > From: kingjye@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > wow....that's a pretty penny. > > Jye > > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Ray wrote: > > From: Ray > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 1:04 PM > > 6th Dan $350 > 7th Dan $450 > 8th Dan $550 > 9th Dan $700 > > I believe... > > > On May 6, 2009, at 4:04 AM, Jye nigma wrote: > > > what about 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th? just out of curiousity. > > > > Jye > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,500 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,500 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:17:26 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Chris Canning award nominations open Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Chris Canning award nominations open http://usa-taekwondo.us/news/article/12624 --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Current Kukkiwon dan prices To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Interesting points, but now list the things you can do with a master level Black Belt. I know with a tank of gas I can go to work and other places I need to go, with a college degree I can potentially make serious money (depending on field of study), dining out I can eat which I need to do to live...lol. You see where I'm going with this? The things you listed can be used, but what are some things that having a master level black belt can help you do? Will you get a job because your Xdan? will your payscale increase? If listed on your resume will it give you an edge over other qualified people? If having that can't do any of those things then it is pretty much an expensive luxury. Truth be told if I spend hundreds of dollars, it's on something I can use that will benefit me in some way primarily. But I do understand spending money on something you love as well. I just get turned off by these huge price tags on things that outside of the federation have little meaning. When I look at some other places that charge a pretty penny like an executive security company that an associate of mine runs, I can see clearly that that money is well worth it for the training they provide- h2h combat, firearms, etc.   Now if the training provided by people under the federation definitely produced quality well rounded fighters or people who could actually fight or defend themselves and it produces a better quality of life then I could see that as being a legit reason to pay big bucks. Oh well who can really argue points with a company about qualitative things?   Jye   --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Dennis Overall wrote: You think so? What does a tank of gas cost in Korea? How much can one earn in return at the master level? At what cost is a college degree? How much does it cost for two to dine out ? When you look at the relevance of these things in comparison to the cost of a master level black belt which will last you a life time, then these cost for a belt are very reasonable. Master O --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest