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From the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net Thu Oct 22 17:13:33 2009 Return-Path: Received: from tarsus.bollow.ch (tarsus.bollow.ch [82.195.230.222]) by plus11.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id n9MMDWg31985 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:13:32 -0500 Received: from tarsus.bollow.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tarsus.bollow.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6A2B28090; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:48:22 +0200 Message-ID: <20091023004822.29566.95243.Mailman@tarsus.bollow.ch> From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 16 #268 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Bullysmart (Jye nigma) 2. Video clip:Karate vs Kung Fu (Jye nigma) 3. RE: Gm Ji is the Black Belt Hall of Fame "Man of the Year" for 2009 (Thomas Gordon) 4. Martial arts school sued -- revisited (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Bullysmart To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In the hood, the #1 rule is you better be from that hood....lol, because depending on where you are, one bully can turn into a whole lot more.   Where are the days that if you went to a new neighborhood, you proved yourself and then everything was ok? growing up if you were a new person to that area or didn't live there you had to fight, once you fought it was all good and you were a part of that area.   Jye --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Christian Briggs wrote: From: Christian Briggs Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Bullysmart To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 2:02 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKxv69GEVE Yep, being slapped by a person half your size will put your lights out! I'm not from the hood, but from a little podunk town in oregon.  Try slapping some redneck and running away...Do they think that people arnt going to find them later on?  Perhaps bullies don’t know how to run after smaller people. Maybe the full version gives the further advice of moving as soon as you get home. I'm sure there is some good advice in there somewhere, but of the stuff I saw, wouldndnt have worked to well for me. On a similar subject.  It kinda reminds of all those sitcoms and after school specials where the bullies would back down after being stood up to by some one.  How many black eyes have kids gotten, by thinking that bei of fantasy would work? Funny/Sad stuff -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Jye nigma [mailto:kingjye@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:06 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Bullysmart Wow....hope they don't try any of that in the hood....lol.   Jye _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,500 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource. Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Video clip:Karate vs Kung Fu Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Legendary Karate pioneer and MMA promoter, Karriem Abdallah sign up Novel Bell and Mahaliel Bethea for the Karate vs Kung Fu match at his December 18th MMA event.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkB8jEWVJK8   Jye --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Gm Ji is the Black Belt Hall of Fame "Man of the Year" for 2009 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:52:06 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Regardless of how people feel about Dojunim Ji, this is good for all the Hapkido world. Well, if the Hapkido instructor is smart enough to capitalize on it. I'll certainly be getting a copy of that and using it to help promote our Hapkido training. Thomas Gordon Master's Seminars April 16-18, 2010 www.GordonMartialArts.com/april www.facebook.com/tgkick --__--__-- Message: 4 From: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:21:59 -0700 To: The_Dojang Subject: [The_Dojang] Martial arts school sued -- revisited Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Martial arts school sued Nelson Bennett Richmond News October 21, 2009 A Richmond Hapkido instructor is appealing a recent court decision that cleared the way for a lawsuit that, if successful, could have implications for a wide range of youth sports and extracurricular activities. Victor Wong, 20, is suing Lok's Martial Arts Centre for negligence stemming from a broken arm he received while a student at the dojang in 2006. Wong was sparring with a fellow student, Ramin Asgare Nik, who is also named in the lawsuit. A lawsuit against Lok's Hapkido school could have implications for other martial arts schools, like this judo club, where sparring carries a risk of injury. Wong's statement of claim alleges 26 incidents of negligence, ranging from failing to screen students for emotional or psychological problems, to failing to ban Nik from sparring when he had demonstrated "previous signs of inappropriate aggression and behaviour." Wong's lawyer, Bonnie Lepin, said her client does not want to talk to the media, but said his injury was severe enough that it continues to affect his ability to work. "He has a permanent partial disability," she said. Michael Lok, the martial art's school's owner, filed to have Wong's suit -- filed in 2006 -- dismissed, based on the fact Wong's mother signed a waiver indemnifying his dojang from any responsibility for any injury students might receive while practicing martial arts. But Justice Peter Willcock recently dismissed that application based on the B.C. Infant's Act. Willcock's ruling doesn't mean Wong will necessarily win his civil suit -- only that it can go ahead. The civil trial is set for Nov. 23, although that date could be adjourned, as Lok is appealing the recent court decision to the B.C. Court of Appeal. The ruling underscores just how vulnerable to lawsuits anyone in B.C. who deals with children may be, thanks to the B.C. Infant's Act, which essentially means waivers signed by parents on behalf of their children have no force in law. Hapkido is a Korean martial art that employs kicks, punches, throws and a range of arm and wrist locks, as well as weapons training. In addition to doing drills, students put their skills to the test through sparring matches. By their very nature, martial arts involve a risk of injury, which is why Lok requires all students or their parents to sign waivers. The school's conditions for membership states: "all exercises, treatments and use of facilities are taken at the student's sole risk," and concludes in capital letters: 'YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL INJURIES!'" Wong's mother, Yen To, signed Wong and his two brothers up for Hapkido in 2001, when Victor Wong was 12 years old. "Ms. To says she signed the Conditions of Membership and Release form but did not read it carefully or fully understand it," court documents state. "She knew if she did not sign it her sons would not be allowed to enrol in Hapkido classes. She says she had no intention of waiving her sons' rights to sue..." Wong's lawsuit alleges the injury he received was not a result of ordinary martial arts training. The suit alleges Lok was negligent in allowing Nik, who was bigger and 25 years older, to spar with a student who was just 16. Lok's lawyer, Michael Frost, argues that Wong was, in fact, the more advanced student. "In fact, Mr. Wong had a higher belt than Mr. Nik," he said. Wong'claims Nik became frustrated when Wong got the upper hand in a sparring match, grabbed him in a bear hug and threw him to the ground -- "a maneuver which was not in any way part of the recognized sparring match technique." Lok's lawyer, Michael Frost, disputes that allegation, saying Wong fell. "This was an accident," Frost said. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest